18F Has Been Eliminated

29 points by ronbenton 6 hours ago

According to a current employee’s post https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ronbronson_18f-has-indeed-been-eliminated-tonight-activity-7301520770147434496-INNE

Someone 5 hours ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/18F:

“18F is a digital services agency within the Technology Transformation Services department of the General Services Administration (GSA) of the United States Government. 18F helps other government agencies build, buy, and share technology products. The team consists of designers, software engineers, strategists, and product managers who collaborate with other agencies to fix technical problems, build products, and improve public service through technology.”

Clickable URL from this post: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ronbronson_18f-has-indeed-bee...

  • ronbenton 5 hours ago

    One lede that gets buried when talking about 18F : they operate in a “cost recovery” model. Their funding comes from agencies that pay them for help.

    There is no money saved eliminating 18F.

    • ttyprintk 5 hours ago

      We’ll have a list like that when the obscuring smoke clears. The FDA division clearing medical devices, for instance, used no taxpayer money.

      The median case will be that spending stays even because of legal bills. I predict net Congressional spending will increase because DOGE itself will require a massive bailout.

      • acdha 4 hours ago

        Also everything left will become more expensive: anyone bidding on a government contract needs to allocate more overhead money to account for refusal to pay as well as additional legal and accounting expenses, and trying to hire anyone for federal jobs costs more for less-qualified applicants when they can expect to be treated like this.

        When they talk about the government being too inefficient, it’s a promise rather than analysis.

ronbenton 6 hours ago

This is bad. Last I heard, 18F was maintaining the US Web Design System and Login.gov

  • sylware 5 hours ago

    [flagged]

    • acdha 5 hours ago

      No, and also it’s not really a laughing matter when a bunch of people who tried to make government more efficient lose their jobs.

      • sylware 4 hours ago

        javascript people have been hurting me bad.

        Sorry but not sorry.

        • acdha 3 hours ago

          That sounds like you should find a more constructive way to deal with whatever’s going on in your life than cheering on others being traumatized. The Republicans can purge everyone who tried to serve the country and it won’t make anything one iota better for you.

          • sylware 2 hours ago

            Maybe I am failing as a human, not that our kind seems more and more of a rare thing on HN:

            Namely I cannot suppress a bit of emotional joy seeing people who have been dragging me down being dragged down, that whatever their political color since it is irrelevant here.

            All humans left here, know perfectly the implications of using javascript-ed web engines from the whatng cartel.

            If you don't want to understand that, this is on you mate.

Finnucane 5 hours ago

18F was doing valuable work trying to actually make the government work a little better for people. The current administration doesn’t want that.

  • ronbenton 5 hours ago

    It’s crazy. USDS and now 18F. These were the organizations doing the real efficiency work. Both axed. Why???

    • acdha 5 hours ago

      If your goal is efficiency, it makes no sense.

      If your goal was something like contracting government functions to businesses owned by you or your friends, and your pretext for doing it was that government was incompetent and couldn’t work, this would make sense as a move to remove both competition and people who can disprove your “smartest guy in the room” shtick.

      They’re pushing so much claiming that the DOGE people are geniuses who can fix everything, but then detail after detail confirms that they’re not actually that good but they are very interested in politicizing what are ostensibly non-partisan activities.

    • Finnucane 4 hours ago

      For the same reason you fire the inspectors general and the JAGs, shut down corruption investigations at the DoJ. They're systematically eliminating the people whose job is to make sure laws and rules are followed. Useful services are cut, while money is redirected to favored contractors.