apothegm 11 hours ago

Better cats in a place where you get food than mice and rats, which are the alternative.

moralestapia 20 hours ago

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  • JumpCrisscross 19 hours ago

    > Pet friendly food places violate the law

    Huh. It would seem that the FDA lacks jurisdiction to micromanage commercial affairs on private property among the states in this manner.

    If someone knows a restaurant or bar owner—ideally who own their land and are in a red state—who was fined or otherwise damaged by the feds for letting pets on their premises, please reach out. Would love to sponsor a test case.

    • moralestapia 16 hours ago

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      • kasey_junk 15 hours ago

        One of the alternatives in the US, especially for issues regarding laws that infringe on rights, is to have a court adjudicate if the law is allowed.

        You almost always need to break that law to get that to happen.

      • 8note 13 hours ago

        the law includes punishments because its expected and designed in that the law is broken.

        there are wve past that, laws about how the law can be written, where they cant contreve more important laws like constitutions.

        the most impactful way to challenge illegal laws is to not follow them, and the court process afterwards figures out invalidating that law

        however, nreaking bad laws also brings attention to them so that legislative changes can be made.

      • precommunicator 15 hours ago

        So you never drove your car at 1mph over the speed limit?

        • moralestapia 14 hours ago

          I don't drive a car.

          But on the spirit of a good conversation (see @dang, I'm behaving :)) to your point of whether I have ever broke the law or not ... most likely yes, but not consciously.

          Many times I have refrained from doing things for the sole reason that it would be unlawful, even though I disagree with it.

          There's a big difference between that and choosing to consciously break the law for a menial pleasure.

          Edit: So weird to be on the hot pan for defending the rule of law, lmao. What a terrible status quo.

          • precommunicator 13 hours ago

            I guess learning about every single law in every single situation would be this one thing that's "sure they're not easy and they take time" but:

            Quoting from the swedish driver education book[1].

            > It is not desirable to have 100% adherence to the rules. According to the criteria for a category B licence, you must display “good judgement when interacting with other road users”. A reasonable interpretation of this statement is that you may depart from the rules in some cases.

            I feel the same can be said about many other situations.

            - [1] https://korkortonline.se/en/theory/learning-maturity/

  • exe34 18 hours ago

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    • moralestapia 15 hours ago

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      • anon7000 14 hours ago

        Use a different restaurant? Are allergies a protected class for discrimination? If being in the same vicinity as a dog is too much, I guess taking a dog for a walk should be illegal too. And anything that produces pollen for that matter.

        I’m also not aware of any pet-friendly bars or restaurants that have dogs regularly climbing on top of eating tables. I’m aware of a few which allow a dog on the floor somewhere

    • Amezarak 17 hours ago

      It’s not about empathy, it’s about stopping the spread of disease and parasites. This was a hard-fought battle we won decades ago, but apparently we’re re-litigating, no different than vaccines or pasteurization.

      • metalman 17 hours ago

        There was a hard won battle? there was most defintly not, but itcs worth a try, so lets start with exterminating rats, mice, cockroaches. And then providing a minimum standard of care and funding for the millions of poor, unhealthy, disease carrying humans. And then worry too much about the dumb fucking cats, which as you might be able to discern, do not have my sympathy, but I am coward enough, not to mess with the legions of cat lovers......,..but did get down voted for the following Rat?, Bat!, Splat!, how bout that.